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moving level 4 writers to level 5

 
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littlehippo



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:50 am    Post subject: moving level 4 writers to level 5 Reply with quote

Good writing does not just happen. The best writers spend a great deal of time thinking, planning, rewriting, and editing. How would you increase the number of level 5 writers in your class?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of drama - my children aren't so good on the 'ideas' and need opportunities to gather mental suggestions before they think about the writing.
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Rainbow_Bright



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 10:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reading lots of good stories and discussing why they are good.   Self and peer assessment of their writing and the opportunity to rewrite after that has also really helped mine improve their writing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2010 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As RB. Plus making sure they read a wide range of books in their independent reading; constantly making suggestions especially in guided reading. For example. pointing out how an author had done something and getting them to think about how they could do a similar thing.  Quickwrite activities - for example i display a picture or story opener during registration and get them to write a paragraph in their writer's notebooks.

Also emphasizing that figurative language is not just for poetry!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of modelling to the class, nicking bits from authors and using them as a scaffold.
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Night Garden



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it really hard to move level 4 writers to 5. Mainly becuase I have all but 2 of them in my class and the rest are 3a/4c.
I think level 5 writers just have that natural ability to write. They are usually your good readers and excellent talkers.
They just seem to have a natural flair at writing.
Everything PP have said I am doing to try and make my low level 4's better writers.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Night Garden wrote:

I think level 5 writers just have that natural ability to write. They are usually your good readers and excellent talkers.
They just seem to have a natural flair at writing.


I do sometimes think this- Level 5 writing is SO hard to teach- and I do think there is a element of natural flair involved.  Also, those children who sit down and talk at home, tend to have the vocab at there fingers tips- this is possible to work on/teach in school, but very difficult to embed if not done at home.  Also agree a massive element is how much they read, or are read to at home, again you can work on this in school, but those without home support again miss out.
Having said that I continue to keep trying every strategy under the sun to get some of them up to level 5!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We have very few as we have our children up to year 5 but the ones I've had have been children with a real flair for writing and generally avid readers as well.
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littlehippo



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reading is the thing I agree. School in question is in low 90s% for level 4 + with 37% level 5 so ofsted have said they need to increase number of level 5's.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds a lot my my school Little Hippo.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree, SGL, there's only so much you can teach at that level.   I do what I can but some children just have that extra flair and some don't.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 05, 2010 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be honest what I would consider a level 5 is a lot higher than what they would get in SATs. I wait intrigued as I am sure there will be more Level 5's than I would give in my class and overall in the year group.
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