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rubbadubbas

Big Maths

Howdy all. Can I be cheeky and ask if any of you lovely people follow the Big Maths programme in school? If you do could I possibly beg a look at one plan? We are starting after Easter and I need to get my head round how a plan would look.
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chatty_teacher

Is this big maths assertive mentoring or big maths ros wilson?
rubbadubbas

Andrell Education, Ben Harding, Big Maths Smile.
Snoopy

I would be interested in this too. I went on the course last year but then for different reasons have never been able to implement any of it. I want to look into us trying bits of it after Easter and maybe starting properly in September.
wotsitagain

We do.

I don't know that I have any decent plans at home, but I can get you some stuff tomorrow if you like. Can even send you a Smart file of some of my clic sessions if you like.

As regards planning, we have 2 sheets - one for the CLIC and one for the rest of the lesson. We do try not to make planning onerous, so it will not be as detailed as some pans I have seen on here. I recommend breaking your staff in gently.  Mine were up for it, then baulked, then into it and now love it.  They are now just about fully operational.  I just hope that the optional SATs will show an overall improvement.

Feel free to bug me with more questions, it is good for my development and work avoidance.
wotsitagain

chatty_teacher wrote:
Is this big maths assertive mentoring or big maths ros wilson?


That question could explain why someone else on here and I were not understanding each other when discussing an aspect of Big MAths!
rubbadubbas

Oooh WIA, thanks that's great. I've seen the planning example for CLIC in the file but would appreciate seeing a 'real' example. So if you don't mind I'd love to see yours and I'd never say no to a free Smart file!! Wink
My addie is rubbadubbas@gmail.com
Thanks x
wotsitagain

OK, I will get back to you tomorrow. x
Snoopy

Please could I have a look aswell? I'd be grateful to see 'real' planning also!
nxrosco@gmail.com

How do you use big maths alongside the national curriculum? Has anybody got a yearly overview of what this would look like?  My 'job' for the Easter holiday is to get this sorted!
wotsitagain

Will give you both some attention tomorrow.  We have not done a  whole year of BM but I can explain what we have done so far.
rubbadubbas

Thanks WIA. There's no rush though.
greyengine

I'd be really interested to find out about how this is working in practice too.
We're starting doing the learnits after Easter and then adding the Counting after half term but adapting a bit to suit ourselves.
I'd be very grateful for any insight into how it's working out in practice or any resources that might be helpful.
wotsitagain

Glad you said there is no rush cos I totally forgot. Sorry. Have hopefully hot some time tomorrow.
Snoopy

Thanks for the offer to help, wotsitagain. Whenever you have time would be great.

Greyengine, how are you starting with the learnits? Are you starting with term1 for each year group?
wotsitagain

Doing learn its catch up was the hardest thing for us, and I was not at all happy to hear that our federated infants had not started on the learn its before Christmas - despite agreeing that they wre goin to do Big Maths too.  

Each year group basically recapped the facts that children should have learnt up to that point at a faster rate than Big Maths.  In Y5 we concentrated on addition facts, learning the +1s , then +2s etc and then did the 10, 2, 5 tables. We did those tables giving children a week to learn the first 5 facts, 2 weeks to learn the second 5.   When we moved on to 3x etc we have talked about the facts we know and then taken 2 facts a week on average to learn. We are now in the 8x table and learning roughly one fact every 3 lessons.  It has been good to concentrate for one lesson on getting one fact in the head.  It is amazing to hear low ability children tell me that the product of 6 and8 is 48 and 48 divded by 6 is 8 etc. And retaining that info from one day to the next.  They are not speedy gonzales yet - though some are.  

With the tests, we started on year 2 test and most are now on y4 or 5/6.  One girl made me immensely proud last week by getting through all 72 questions in the time.   The amazing thing was that the rest of the table had been doing the y4 test so they were just watching her whizzing through the test paper.  I wish I had filmed it, as eyes were out on organ stops and jaws droppin.  A couple of the boys watching are very confident mathematicxally but pretty hopeless at learn its.  I know that watching her has inspired them to go away and make an effort to learn those facts.  

Sorry, that last bit was not helpful, but I did want to share the that even learn its can be inspirational!
greyengine

Thanks, wotsit, that's helpful to see how it's working in practice.
We are starting the learnits after Easter but with some tweaks.  We have divided the facts up into 'Quests' which correspond to the different Year groups in Big Maths (so Quest 1 is learning the Reception facts etc.).  We're thinking of dividing into groups for the Big Maths sessions so that different groups can be working on different Quests.   I've suggested that Reception start on Reception facts (Quest 1) and get as far as they can this term; Year 1/2 largely start on the Year 1 facts (Quest 2) and progress to Year 2 facts if ready (Quest 3), but children who are still working on P levels start with Quest 1.  KS2 children will start Quests according to their levels so P level children will start with Quest 1, level 1 children with Quest 2, level 2 children with Quest 3, level 3 children with Quest 4 (Year 3 facts), level 4 children with Quest 5 (Year 4 facts) and level 5 children with Quest 6 (Year 5/6 test).   This is a rule of thumb and there will be lots of flexibility to move children between groups once we get going.  We've created certificates for the completion of each Quest (judged by getting all the facts on the appropriate test in the given time).  The idea is that children start on a Quest that is challenging enough that they're not getting the certificate in the first week or two, but not so challenging that they shouldn't be able to complete their first Quest within a couple of terms.
Sounds complicated, I know, but as we've got the flexibility to group the children, we thought we'd use it.  One of our teachers trialled the Learnits in Year 1/2 this term and it's been good, but she's found it difficult to manage the spread in one class even in KS1.   She has one group herself doing the Year 1 facts, her TA works with the small group of children who are still learning Reception facts and the children learning the Year 2 facts work independently with some occasional input from her.
wotsitagain

Have uploaded some stuff here.  Let me know if you would like anything else.

http://primaryresourcecentre.myfreeforum.org/sutra448500.php#448500
rubbadubbas

Thanks WIA and GE. Will have a gander.
Snoopy

Thank you - I haven't had a chance to look yet. Still in sch until thurs!
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